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New: DOM Scripting WebRing

Tuesday December 7th, 1999

Mitch Gould writes, "The DOM Scripting WebRing is a hub for the next generation of Web design. This is a call for web links, going out especially to the javascripters working with cross-browser programming of the DOM in the version-5 browsers from Microsoft and Netscape."

It will also be useful in bridging the gap from the proprietary DOM implementations of the past to the new standards-compliant browsers of the future.


#1 Cool

by zontar

Wednesday December 8th, 1999 9:11 AM

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Except for the bogus character entity on the webring's home page. (Or is it just NS 4.6/Mac?)

I'll still sign up, tho' -- as soon as I have time to redo my site.

:-)

#2 Next generation? Gods, I hope not

by leafdigital

Wednesday December 8th, 1999 11:30 AM

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Though I'm all for cross-browser Javascript (er, ECMAScript :) via the standard DOM, and look forward to the steps Mozilla is making on this, I really do hope that the "next generation" of websites isn't just about gratuitous graphic effects... (Especially as some users such as those in older browsers, text- or speech-only browsers, and non-PC devices are unlikely to see those effects.)

Personally I'd like to see a "next generation" of usable and presentable websites - not gimmicks (or gratuitous web applications that could be better done in Java).

[The website for the class I'm teaching is <http://www.leafdigital.com/class/> - nothing about DHTML but it does contain a whole bunch of stuff about creating good websites, which I would *love* to see actually implemented in the majority of "next generation" websites. :)]

BTW, sorry if this sounds a little bitchy, I don't have anything against this initiative, or DHTML glitz itself which is fine if done appropriately... Just the "next generation" phrase bugged me... it probably wasn't meant that way, but I've seen that kind of thing said several times and it sort of bugs me...

--sam

#3 Re: Next generation? Gods, I hope not

by gerbilpower <gerbil@ucdavis.edu>

Wednesday December 8th, 1999 12:16 PM

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Well you're not bitching, your points are valid. I had to deal with this issue myself.

I remember one site I liked visit had some incredible graphics, but he extensively used Java to decorate each page of his site. This made his site very slow, especially since I was on my older computer, and a pain in the ass.

And another time I convinced another webmaster from using this new and over-elaborate and interactive navigation scheme for his site. Those little mouse-over tricks are neat, but his idea went WAY beyond that with Javascript and Java just for simple navigation.

A little bit of show is not a bad thing at all, just as long as it's not excessive.

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