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What is your favorite e-mail client?

Total Votes So Far: 9314
Mozilla Thunderbird 52% (4917)
SeaMonkey Mail 11% (1085)
Outlook (Express) 10% (990)
Eudora 2% (202)
Apple Mail 3% (355)
None 4% (407)
Other 14% (1358)

#1 Other

by vfwlkr

Friday October 14th, 2005 7:08 PM

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If you're voting Other, please add a comment to indicate which.

Webmail (Gmail, yahoo, hotmail, etc) users should select "None"

#58 Re: Other

by prt

Friday November 18th, 2005 3:22 PM

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I use Pine

#63 Re: Other

by FattMattP

Tuesday December 6th, 2005 5:25 PM

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Pine here too.

#2 Gmail

by as265

Friday October 14th, 2005 7:27 PM

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I prefer the Gmail web interface.

#3 Outlook

by hobbes78

Friday October 14th, 2005 8:12 PM

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I use Outlook to access my Gmail account. I can synchronise e-mails with my PDA, my mobile and additionally new messages are signalled through a blue led on the side of my laptop. No other e-mail client provides me this and I'm surprised this option isn't present in the poll since it's part of Office (though my copy came with the PDA).

#6 Re: Outlook

by vfwlkr

Friday October 14th, 2005 9:44 PM

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"Outlook (Express)" includes both Outlook and Outlook Express. Used the shorthand to avoid breaking column layout.

#31 Re: Re: Outlook

by bnortham

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 7:27 AM

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Interesting, considering they are completely separate programs with huge differences in included functionality. They're not comparabe enough to include as the same option just because they come from the same company. I at first chose not to select this option because I wanted to choose Outlook but couldn't stand the fact that may be interpreted as an endorsement of the abyssmal Outlook Express product.

#55 Outlook Express

by prowsej

Monday November 7th, 2005 7:02 AM

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I ended up choosing the "other" option because I wanted to choose Outlook Express, but I couldn't stand that it would count as a vote for the terribly limited Outlook product that doesn't even support newsgroups.

#49 Re: Re: Outlook

by FirefoxFreak

Saturday October 22nd, 2005 11:12 PM

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You might as well have thrown Pegasus mail in there too. So then It would be "Outlook (Express)/Pegasus Mail". That would have made about as much sense.....

#4 Other

by LtData

Friday October 14th, 2005 8:21 PM

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I use Foxmail at the recommendation of my friend when I'm in Windows, so I voted other. However, when I'm in Linux, I do use Thunderbird, but on average I use Foxmail more than I end up using Thunderbird.

#5 One more "other"

by Lyx

Friday October 14th, 2005 9:43 PM

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I use pimmy because its so lightweight yet supports IMAP, multiple mailboxes, multiple SMTP-servers and identities, and filtering.

I'm unsatisfied with it because the menus and the interface is so cramped with options which i dont need.... and i dont like the multiple-windows approach....... but i didn't yet found anything which comes more close to what i want.

#7 Migration woes ...

by rmigneron

Friday October 14th, 2005 10:56 PM

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I went from Netscape 4, to Netscape 6, to 7. Then I migrated to the Firefox/Thunderbird couple. Finally, I migrated to Apple Mail and I think I'll stay there.

One of the problem of Thunderbird is that it is heavy on Mac and not fully supporting the OS X environment. I think there should be a Camino friend Mailer, that would interact with Apple's Address Book and Apple iCal. I just started using Camino and it is a lot faster than Firefox on my Mac anyway !

Another problem, is that since I migrated over from NS 4 to Mail over 7 years, I had a buggy mailbox. I had to use an external utility to reformat and remove all the bugs went I switch to Apple Mail. I think such a tool should be integrated in Tbird.

#50 Re: Migration woes ...

by Koala

Tuesday October 25th, 2005 4:55 PM

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Hear, hear! Integration and general Mac-like behaviors are one of the major factors pushing me away from Thunderbird. The ability to trigger commands without the command key and the generally iffy state issues (particularly in 1.0.x) where you can't use any menus, etc., make for a sub-par offering for Mac. I don't know that a Camino-like mail offering would be worth the bother, but it'd sure make for a great project were there so inclined developers.

#8 Other: Evolution

by cerb

Saturday October 15th, 2005 2:10 AM

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I prefer Evolution in GNOME, but I use Thunderbird when I need to do something in Windows :)

#9 KMail

by yglodt

Saturday October 15th, 2005 7:15 AM

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KMail of KDE is my favourite

#10 Outlook Express :(

by lordbrain515

Saturday October 15th, 2005 12:28 PM

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If Thunderbird supported Hotmail, I would be all over it. Unfortunately, I guess I'm stuck with Outlook Express...

#53 Hotmail extension for Thunderbird

by fishbert

Sunday November 6th, 2005 2:37 PM

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#11 Entourage 2004

by brettz9

Sunday October 16th, 2005 3:51 AM

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Microsoft Entourage 2004 (for Mac) is, I'm sorry to say, the best option for the mac for power users....I hope and believe Thunderbird will catch up...It's on its way...Looking to see schedules for retrieving/sending mail, rules (now filters) which can run applescripts (e.g., a voice alert script that can be run when one has received email from a specific person), ability to view as many columns (date rec'd/sent, etc.) in the window at once as desired, true integration with a calendar, etc. ... I also hope (above and beyond Entourage) that one will be able to put notes, tasks, calendar events, etc. within the same folder system (not needing to set up a separate "project" as Entourage requires) such that all of one's information can be integrated together (even integrating into it a XUL file browser with files being integratable with one's emails, etc. in such a fashion as well).

#12 Thunderbird

by Darken

Sunday October 16th, 2005 6:40 PM

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Mozilla Thunderbird is my favourite.

#13 Opera's mail client is very nice

by treego

Monday October 17th, 2005 12:52 PM

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It works quite well --- part of Opera's suite, which I think is very sweet.

It's explained a little more here: <http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/m2/>

#15 Re: Opera's mail client is very nice

by vfwlkr

Monday October 17th, 2005 5:00 PM

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I've tried it out personally, and can say with reasonable confidence that its not even close to either: 1. Gmail (my first choice) 2. Thunderbird (second)

#19 Re: Re: Opera's mail client is very nice

by treego

Monday October 17th, 2005 8:44 PM

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I've tried out GMail and Thunderbird and take OperaMail (M2) readily over those options.

:-)

#14 Telnet

by MXN

Monday October 17th, 2005 4:33 PM

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Is it possible to get e-mail using Telnet over port 80? Sorry, I just had to chime in with that one... maybe the last poll was up long enough that people have forgotten that old joke?

- Minh Nguyen

#43 Re: Telnet

by jsight <jsight@pair.com>

Wednesday October 19th, 2005 9:34 AM

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Well, yes, from webmail servers. From POP servers, you would generally use 110 and from IMAP you'd generally use 143. I've done it plenty of times. :)

#16 Pegasus

by Limulus

Monday October 17th, 2005 5:17 PM

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#20 Re: Pegasus

by treego

Monday October 17th, 2005 8:46 PM

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Pegasus is quite nice ... better than anything I've tried, except for Opera Mail (M2).

#46 Re: Re: Pegasus

by neilparks1

Thursday October 20th, 2005 8:32 AM

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I voted for Pegasus. As a POP3 client it has no peer. But unfortunately its IMAP implementation is weak, so for that I use Thunderbird.

#23 my choice too

by tsahi

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 2:38 AM

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i just wish it wasn't so buggy.

thunderbird doesn't allow my to manage emails on the pop server before i download them, and i need that, so i use pegasus.

another problem is that i need hebrew support, and there are so few email clients that have that (TB is one of them).

#35 POP?

by hendridm

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 11:11 AM

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Wow, I didn't know any geeks still used POP3.

#44 Re: POP?

by tsahi

Wednesday October 19th, 2005 1:08 PM

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for some reason, most ISPs in israel don't provide IMAP accounts, so i'm using pop3. what else have you had in mind?

#25 +1 for Pegasus

by rajbhaskar

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 3:27 AM

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I'm another Pegasus user. I've got about 8 years worth of email stored in it, and I'm used to the quirks in the interface. I hear that the new version (4.3, if it ever emerges) will have greatly improved unicode support (may be useful for the person above who needs Hebrew).

#26 Re: Pegasus

by MarkHB

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 4:46 AM

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David, if you happen to read this... Pegasus Mail still rocks!

#29 Re: Pegasus

by madajt

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 6:21 AM

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I still use Pegasus on occasion too, though I've found myself using pine alot now.

#30 For the serious Multi-Personality mailers...

by SPGoetze

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 7:10 AM

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But definetely not for beginners...

I use Pegasus for more than 10 years, now version 4.3PB1, highly configurable, but not very easy to maintain.

#17 Evolution

by muzza

Monday October 17th, 2005 7:39 PM

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Can't believe it wasn't a poll option actually :) I've tried Thunderbird and liked it but without an import from Evolution option I haven't raised the enthusiasm to fully migrate.

#18 TB

by mouserunner

Monday October 17th, 2005 8:10 PM

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I’m enjoying using TB as much as I am Fx. I got instantly hooked when TB imported all of my OE settings, and I’ve never had a tech issue. Mozilla makes great things (sounds like a company jingle).

#21 Foxmail

by c3o

Monday October 17th, 2005 11:49 PM

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I started using Foxmail before Thunderbird existed, and have seen no compelling reason to switch so far. It's lightweight, fast, stable and does what I need it to. No extensions, RSS, search folders or calendar though. Site: <http://fox.foxmail.com.cn/english/> Screenshot: <http://c3o.org/temp/foxmail.gif>

#22 Kmail

by stormcrow

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 1:10 AM

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I tried Thunderbird and liked it very much, but for me Kmail still has the edge on the way it handles filters, accounts and identities. Thunderbird spam identifying is better, but I don't get much spam.

#24 Re: Kmail

by gurnaik

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 3:01 AM

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I've actually switched from Thunderbird to Kontact, which is a complete PIM.

#27 Mutt

by mlefevre

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 5:49 AM

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Most of the time I use Mutt - <http://www.mutt.org> - in a console window logged into where my email is hosted. At home I use Thunderbird.

#28 KMail

by watchman

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 6:05 AM

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KMail suits my needs!

#32 Courier

by imforumman

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 8:02 AM

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It's been dropping in my personal favorites list some time now, as I think development has stoped and some things are out of date, but Courier (used to be Calypso) is probably the best one there as far as workflow and straight-forward design is concerned.

#33 gnus

by sgifford <sgifford@suspectclass.com>

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 8:40 AM

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gnus has a lot of features that make it very efficient for reading lots of mailing lists. It also can be run remotely over ssh, so I can read my mail from anywhere with an ssh client.

#34 Re: gnus

by grahammm <graham@gmurray.org.uk>

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 10:06 AM

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Another vote for gnus

#36 other

by blisk

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 11:15 AM

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gmail.com

#37 Re: other

by blisk

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 11:17 AM

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i'm illiterate... o well... just take one vote off other and add it to none .. i voted wrong

what a great 1st and second post on mozillazine ;p

#38 Can't go Tbird until scanners can clean Inbox

by Iczer

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 11:17 AM

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Sorry, I can't in good faith recommend Thunderbird until virus scanners can successfully clean an infected Thunderbird Inbox. As I understand it now, if a new virus comes out which is not detected by the current virus definitions, and is attached to an e-mail in the Inbox, the whole Inbox file will be quarantined when updated virus defs come out. This bug was partially fixed by: <https://bugzilla.mozilla.…rg/show_bug.cgi?id=116443>

The partial fix was the implementation of a temporary area where new messages are quarantined (and therefore scanned) before they're merged with the Inbox. Unfortunately, this doesn't address the above situation. If anyone knows whether this has been fixed or is being addressed, please reply, as this is the one thing preventing me from recommending Tbird. :-)

#39 KMail

by markie_j <mark@barrenfrozenwasteland.com>

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 12:30 PM

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I use Kmail, because it integrates nicely with KDE, and uses the addressbook synced with my Palm.

#40 Unfortunately TB is just yet another email program

by johann_p

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 2:31 PM

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There is nearly nothing innovative or practical in TB -- it is just another email program and misses many features other email programs do have. For people who have to work with *a lot* of emails, on a daily basis, and for their work, the lack of features like arbitrary keywords/labels, ability to attach notes, ability to define follow-up actions, ability to define deadlines, missing integration with a decent calendar etc. makes TB cumbersome or unusable. There are bugs in TB that are eons old - e.g. the terrible way how unfolding the header display when all headers should be shown will hide all of the message and will make the display totally unusable has been unfixed since the Mozilla Mail component existed. To force the user to have the same column layout and other settings (e.g. display message body as ... ) for all accounts, including news accounts is just incredibly dumb. Speaking of the newsreader, that one hardly deserves the name and should probably be dropped just to prevent people from incorrectly assuming TB could be used for anything but most casual reading of usenet news.

#73 Re: Unfortunately TB is just yet another email pro

by danielferber

Wednesday December 21st, 2005 5:18 AM

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Yes, I have to agree that TB is just another email client that disappoints those that are looking for a really useful email client.

Many interesting solutions have been proposed over time, but TB is just like the old Netscape mail client. Creating and running filters is cumbersome. There are no filtering heuristics for very common cases. No self learning filters like Opera. Note that haveng a spam filter isn't a feature anymore, since most mail clients have those filters. No organizing mail over labels like gmail. The TB forum argues that these limitations arent serious because there are saved searches. Sorry, but they not an alternative for flexible labels and efficint filters. No grouping by conversation (including replies). Downloading mail from several pop accounts is not intuitive. Moving folders around is extremly buggy. Actualy, that was the reason why I stoppend using TB. Now I went back to Outlook, unfortunately.

TB is definitly not the the solution for someone who wants to keep control over many mailboxes or for someone who receives more the 50 mails per day.

Sorry, I had many expectations about TB, but so far, I was only disappointed.

#41 I can't vote

by coppero1237

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 2:47 PM

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It wouldn't let me but I use gmail all the way.

#42 I can't vote

by coppero1237

Tuesday October 18th, 2005 2:47 PM

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It wouldn't let me vote but I use gmail all the way.

#45 Tb has only advantage.

by dummy00001

Thursday October 20th, 2005 6:20 AM

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Tb has only advantage over old Netscape Messenger - it is separate application. Like many others, I find most (all?) GUI mail client silly. They all have bunch of bogosities, implemented specifically for some mythical Joe "Six Pack" who wouldn't care to use e-mail in the first place. But still the "features" are there - just to annoy professional users.

Netscape Messenger was best in its time. Now it is Apple's Mail.app - least bogus I'd say.

Best of all is - of course - mutt. <http://www.mutt.org> - try it today! ;-)

#47 No Pine?

by josephwright <joseph.wright@morningstar2.co.uk>

Thursday October 20th, 2005 12:44 PM

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No Pine in the list? It is after all the definitive IMAP client (Washington Uni did after all invent IMAP, I believe).

#48 KMail

by richg74

Thursday October 20th, 2005 3:00 PM

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Although I like Thunderbird a lot, my favorite is still KMail. I already have all the GPG scaffolding set up for encrypted mail, and it allows me to use an external editor for composing messages.

#51 Other ...

by gossrock

Wednesday October 26th, 2005 6:02 PM

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Firefox. web based e-mail service.

#52 No SMTP

by ed_welch

Thursday November 3rd, 2005 9:19 AM

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I never have access to SMTP. The one supplied by my ISP only works when you are using their mail accounts and besides that you can't even access their website without IE, so I just stick to web mail.

#54 Gmail

by ap1978

Monday November 7th, 2005 5:44 AM

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I'm using Gmail and I'm happy with it so.. no e-mail client installed.

#56 Sylpheed(-Claws) anyone?

by stavrosg

Tuesday November 8th, 2005 3:04 AM

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I can't decide between those two, and switch between them every while. They sure are FAST and feature-full ;-)

#57 KMail is my favorite

by bobhenry

Wednesday November 9th, 2005 12:08 AM

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Although I am attached to a windows machine at the moment, my prefered OS is Linux and KDE Desktop thus my preference to KMail. Cheers!

#59 KMail

by travise

Tuesday November 22nd, 2005 3:55 PM

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I currently use KMail. There are a lot of features it offers that I can't find built into Thunderbird, such as automatic mailing list management features.

#60 Microsoft Pocket Inbox

by nandhp

Tuesday November 29th, 2005 1:12 PM

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Microsoft Pocket Inbox. Seriously. If someone were to develop a similarly lightweight client for PC, I'd love it.

#74 Re: Microsoft Pocket Inbox

by desdm

Tuesday December 11th, 2007 1:44 PM

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Does you tried this? <http://pomo.desofto.com/> I think this is a good idea to sort messages to folders in Pocket Inbox.

#61 Evolution

by eugrus <eugrus@gmail.com>

Friday December 2nd, 2005 8:03 AM

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Evolution is mine.

#62 Other eMail Client

by GCG

Saturday December 3rd, 2005 6:04 AM

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I use PowerMail on my Mac.

#64 Outlook Express

by rcmoz

Wednesday December 7th, 2005 6:38 AM

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Outlook Express, which is a totally different product from Outlook. Outlook is meant to be an Exchange client, and is an extremely buggy one. As for Thunderbird, it's just too slow compared to Express. Make it start faster and maybe I'll use it.

#65 BLOGDORE

by imnotfunny

Wednesday December 7th, 2005 4:04 PM

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LOL

BLOGDORE=STARWARS IN CHINA

#66 im going to try to get it up to 100

by imnotfunny

Wednesday December 7th, 2005 4:06 PM

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RiGHT NOW IS AT 66! WOW!

#67 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????

by imnotfunny

Wednesday December 7th, 2005 4:07 PM

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can any 1 here me or am i being agnored

#68 pop musick is wierd who agrese

by imnotfunny

Wednesday December 7th, 2005 4:09 PM

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lol not funny l__l

#69 The Bat! of RitLabs fame.

by dummy00001

Thursday December 8th, 2005 3:55 AM

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The most powerful e-mail client. After all it is made by Russians. It has its pile of problems - but otherwise it is standard MUA in Russia.

P.S. It's not free, but Russians crack it and pirate it anyway. Every new version tries to include more sophisticated cracking protection, but it's got cracked eventually anyway. The Russians like it so much ;-)

P.P.S. I'd voted for Netscape Messenger 4.7x, since it is the only true graphical MUA. Tb, OE, etc are just bleak fakes compared to maturity of good ol' Messenger.

#70 Other

by aluminio

Thursday December 8th, 2005 7:57 AM

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I use The Bat! email client, is the "no plus ultra" of the email client for poweruser in windows os. Has a lot of benefits like power messaging filtering with support of Regular Expressions rules (perl compatible),selective download,antispam, macros, templates, cookies and multiples plugins for bizarre and exotic perfomance, is IMHO very superior to TB, and very much ultra deluxe superior to OE and other funny and entry level email clients.

=)

--> <http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/>

#71 Other

by aluminio

Thursday December 8th, 2005 9:01 AM

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I use The Bat! email client, is the "no plus ultra" of the email client for poweruser in windows os. Has a lot of benefits like power messaging filtering with support of Regular Expressions rules (perl compatible),selective download,antispam, macros, templates, cookies and multiples plugins for bizarre and exotic perfomance, is IMHO very superior to TB, and very much ultra deluxe superior to OE and other funny and entry level email clients.

=)

--> <http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/>

#72 Email client?

by maxyvits

Saturday December 10th, 2005 5:52 AM

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If I use one, it's Outlook (Thunderbird is simply not feature-rich enough as a main email client). Still, I use Gmail as my principle means of emailing--email clients are a nonstarter for me.

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